French    German    Spain    Italian    Arabic    Chinese Simplified    Russian

Western Civilisation

Until the advent of materialism and 19th c. dogma, Western Civilisation was  superior to anything Islam had developed.  Islam has not aided in the development of the modern world; in fact civilisation has only been created in spite of Islam.  Proof of this resides in the 'modern' world and the unending political-economic and spiritual poverty of Muslim states and regions.  Squatting on richer civilisations is not 'progress'.  Islam is pagan, totalitarian, and irrational.   

Back     Printer Friendly Version  

Wednesday, November 30, 2005

Bookmark and Share

Liberals are right, we should leave Iraq, lose the war on terror and leave the world to the UNO

Soft power is about as relevant and intelligent as global warming.

by Ferdinand III


The Liberal elite – arrogant, self righteous, hypocritical, and usually corrupt – assumes that it can regulate, manage and shape the world to the benefit of all. The benefits mostly go to themselves but Liberals persist in painting the fantasy that their selfish interests, in wearing the robes of Plato’s Guardians, are in the best interests of mankind. The Liberals are now screaming, even more vocally then before, that the war on terror is going badly, that Iraq is lost and we should pull out, and that the West is to blame for the turmoil in the Middle East and beyond. The media stands almost four-square behind the Liberals in their hatred of the Bush-Blair axis and their support of the ‘underdog’ ie. Fascist, expansionist Islam. But is the Liberal left right? Should we leave Iraq, allow Israel to be destroyed, appease Islam and call in the UN as the only police constable and arbiter of international relations? Let’s analyze those positions.

Liberals apparently believe that the war on terror is not a war that demands pre-emption and that Iraq is another Vietnam. Interesting. So when Clinton had a chance at destroying Al Qaeda and Bin Laden before 9-11 and did not take it [referenced 3 times in the 9-11 Commission Report], we can assume that 9-11 was okay – a mere consequence of past Cold War atrocities. I wonder if this same attitude would be held if it was downtown Paris or Toronto that had been decimated by Islamic terrorists. Doubtful. So if the US had invaded Afghanistan in 1999, killed and disbanded the Taliban and Al Qaeda, the war according to the Liberal-left, would have been illegal, ineffective and immoral, even if it would have saved the 3000 innocents murdered on 9-11. Fantastic logic.

How then do Liberals defend their decision to support Clinton’s intervention in Bosnia to save Muslims from being exterminated? Bombing from 30.000 feet was the preferred US battle plan leading to thousands of dead civilians and doing little to damage the Serb military. It was unauthorized and ineffective and in the Liberal sense – immoral. But no American troops died – just Serb and Muslim civilians. As well the UN never authorized this mission in 1999. Neither did the EU support it, doing everything it could, according to Wesley Clark NATO commander at the time, to hamper the operation, concerned as Clark puts it with, ‘questions of legal processes’. Ergo according to Liberal logic, this war was illegal. So pre-emption is okay as long as the Liberal-left approves and it is done from 30.000 feet and the civilian dead are never counted. Interesting logic.

We can analyse the Iraq war in the same vein. The Iraq war is indeed problematic for the Liberal-left position since all the powerful Liberal interests have at one time, including even left wing rags such as the New York Times, supported the decision to regime change Iraq. In fact the US Senate approved the Iraq Liberation Act without dissent when Bill Clinton was president. Liberals now cry, ‘Bush lied [about WMD], thousands died’, or ‘no blood for oil’, even as oil prices have skyrocketed. Unfortunately such sloganeering shows the true adolescent nature of the Liberal position on Iraq. It is contradictory, hypocritical and dishonest.

There are vast sources of information outlining the nexus of money, terror and aggression in Iraq – all targeted against Israel and the US enforced blockade of Iraq during the 1990s. A market of money, arms, weapons, and terrorism made Iraqi regime change mandatory. There were 23 reasons for going to war and WMD as one of the 23. Not taking out Iraq would have been to jeopardize Western security – a point made by former UN inspectors Duelfer and Kay. Al Qaeda affiliates such as Al Ansar were training in northern Iraq near the Iranian border. The regime was descending into chaos and the corruption of the Oil for Food scandal and the enrichment of French, Russian, Chinese, German and other non-US interests, including billions made by Hussein himself, made the embargo a farcical policy. The fact that 300.000 Iraqi’s were liquidated by Hussein during the 1990s apparently did not much trouble the Liberal-left. Five thousand babies were dying monthly in Iraq in the 1990s according to Unicef. Liberals so concerned about human rights, are seemingly hypocritical when US or Israeli actions are involved. Better to condemn the Iraq invasion as immoral and not authorized by the UN then to defend the liberation of Iraqi’s, the saving of 60.000 children per year, and the improvement of our own security.

And what about Israel? Now that Iran has joined the chorus of fascist Islamic groups threatening to wipe Israel off the map, does the Liberal left care? The PLO has said the same for decades – after all such a goal is inscribed in its Constitution. The only Islamic nation to renounce such an objective has been Jordan, targeted recently by terrorists in the Amman bombings. The Liberal-left so heavy on human rights and democracy has spent decades pillorying, and allying themselves against Israel – the only democratic state, [outside of the New Iraq], in the Middle East. Assigning all blame to Israel for Islamic terror and waging of war is to be polite rather ignorant and it is of course extremely inconsistent and hypocritical. In fact the Liberal left support of the Arab world against Israel is immoral and jeopardizes our own security. Israel is after all, on the front lines in the war on Islamic fascism. They need support, not UN inspired racist rants.

So what would happen if the US left Iraq, apologized, tore up the Constitution and let the Iraqi state devolve into civil war? What would happen if the US agreed with Iran and the PLO and ordered the state of Israel to be torn down? Would Islam thank the Great Satan? Would there be peace? Would we be safer? Would the Muslims now living in the US occupied Iraq be better off, or the Muslims living under supposed Jewish oppression be better off if the Jews and Americans left the Middle East for good? Would terror attacks across the world suddenly stop?

Of course not. The implicit assumption by Liberals is this: a war is a good war as long as someone they like wages it. A war is a good war as long as it kills no-one or no-one that matters. A war is a good war as long as France and Russia agree. A war is a good war, as long as the polls show that voters in sensitive voting districts support it. A war is a good war, as long as their media friends nod sagely and say ‘yes we agree’. A war is a good war, as long as democracy, saving lives, human rights, freedom, and securing our future are not important issues – these are after all far too difficult to attain. A war is a good war as long as we can get it over with during the weekend and all the kids in the new regime are attending Harvard by September. A war is a good war as long as no-one is offended and the Useless Nations Orgy agrees.

So let’s assume that the Liberal left is right. Let’s withdraw from Iraq and let Israel fall prey to Islamic aggression and terror. Let’s do it and see what the consequences are. Afer all what the Soviets could not do, maybe Islam can and let’s see how long the Liberals will be allowed to voice dissent under such a New World Order.

Article Comments:

Related Articles:

Conflicts in Arab/Moslem states


5/9/2022:  Muslim Fulani murdering Christians in Nigeria. But never say the M-word....

3/28/2022:  Nigeria: The Muslim Fulani Jihad continues unabated and uncondemned

8/22/2021:  Muslim Taliban and the eradication of Christianity in Afghanistan

5/15/2021:  The Iraq war and the long-term destruction of Christianity in Iraq

10/21/2020:  Muslims slaughtering Black Christians in Nigeria in a 200 year old Jihad.

9/3/2020:  Black Nigerian Christian Lives Don't Matter

8/7/2020:  Moslem Fascism is imploding. But why import it?

7/4/2020:  European Bishops condemn the slaughter of Black Christian Nigerians

6/15/2020:  Black Christian Lives Don't Matter

3/10/2020:  Turkey sends an army against Greece: EU, NATO, UN, all the big brains have a collective yawn

3/3/2020:  Catholic Church blames Israel for the 'Wall' and Christian persecution and poverty....

12/24/2019:  Christianity soon to disappear from its birthplace - thanks to Moslems

7/14/2016:  The US financing 'moderate' Moslem groups in the ME to wipe out non Moslems

5/25/2015:  Moslems target Christianity for destruction. Multi-culti cult blames the victim.

4/9/2015:  ISIS will implode like all failed Fascisms

12/18/2014:  Taliban Fascists murder 120 children or 'Munafiqun' of Pakistan's elite

11/6/2014:  Moslems in Iraq selling Yezidi and Christian girls, under 10, for up $170 each, as sex slaves

10/23/2014:  700 slaughtered in Syria because they opposed ISIS

10/17/2014:  The Yezidi Genocide. It parallels the Moslem faith genocide against Christianity

9/26/2014:  ISIS is Islam. ISIS compared to Mein Koran.....

9/12/2014:  ISIS is implementing Islam and Koranic barbarism.

8/28/2014:  ISIS is Islam. Islam is ISIS. A simple equation.

8/22/2014:  Western Media dis-information, dissociating ISIS from Islam

8/14/2014:  Moslem Caliphate: 'Chasing a Mirage', or Chasing the Koran's commandments ?

7/23/2014:  Gaza - another failed Arab/Moslem 'state' of violence and barbarism

7/14/2014:  Shades of Moslem Fascist green

6/24/2014:  Stating the obvious: Obama is not a friend of Western Civilization

6/17/2014:  'Extremist' Koran-quoting ISIS declaims that Islam will conquer Rome and Spain

6/16/2014:  ISIS wiping out Christians in Iraq

6/16/2014:  Sunni ISIS, just murdering less earnest cult members + Christians as the Koran commands

6/14/2014:  ISIS - simply an expression of Muhammadanism and Mein Koran

3/17/2014:  Our weakness inspires not only Islam, but Russia

7/5/2013:  Culture is King which is why Egypt is, and always will be, a failure.

11/19/2012:  Hate in Gaza: It is the Koran stupid.

9/15/2012:  Arab Spring to the Moslem Winter – Acts of War

7/20/2012:  The Moslem Winter of 2012: Cultural relativity and unreality.

11/11/2011:  Remembering Courage and Sacrifice against Totalitarianism

8/23/2011:  Libya and the Arab summer of discontent

6/6/2011:  Bosnian Muslims and 'War Crimes'

5/29/2011:  G8 will fund whom exactly and why? $160 billion?

5/19/2011:  Israel's pre-1967 borders? Why not 980 BC?

3/27/2011:  Feisel the Moderate Arab-Muslim leader. One not seen today.

3/16/2011:  Democracy in Greater Arabia and Islam?

2/27/2011:  Arab Fascist intolerance. Hamas, Hizbollah, Palestinian Jihad....

2/26/2011:  Libya burns, Gaddafi threatens ruin and hell, and the UN fiddles

2/15/2011:  The Bush Doctrine and Walid Phares

2/6/2011:  Egypt 2011 has nothing in common with Iran 1979, or Russia 1917.

2/4/2011:  Anti-Semiticism is a hallmark of a deformed and corrupted political-economy.

2/2/2011:  Culturally attenuated secularism and plurality can succeed in the Arab world.

1/30/2011:  Antipodal clashes within the Arab world.

1/30/2011:  History's great opportunity in the Arab Middle East

6/2/2010:  The Arab Jihad against Israel.

4/24/2010:  Why we are in Iraq and Af-crap-istan

10/4/2009:  Salim Mansur: 'The Sickness of the Arab world.'

9/21/2009:  Why the war in Afghanistan is necessary.

9/11/2009:  9-11 and its lessons – lost on 'liberals' and the sophisticates.

9/6/2009:  Dr. Wafa Sultan - An Arab woman's look at Islam and 'Reform'

8/10/2009:  The Arab death cult – hating Jews for loving life

6/30/2009:  The Prophet wrong again – on Iraq this time.

6/25/2009:  “How should we eat the flesh of American soldiers ?”

6/19/2009:  The Bush Doctrine is working. Iran is a prime example.

6/2/2009:  One-third of the Arab world is illiterate.

4/15/2009:  Somalia – another failed Islamic state.

1/7/2009:  Arab culture gave us the Koran and Gaza.

12/12/2008:  Arab imperialism and the Koran.

12/1/2008:  The Iraq War is won.

7/20/2008:  Arab imperialism – a story of state centralisation.

6/13/2008:  The Iraq war is won.

5/28/2008:  Kid Dynomite and giving in to Muslim imperialism

4/10/2008:  One of the most important and cheapest wars in history.

4/7/2008:  The Iraq war is cheap.

3/21/2008:  The War on Islamic Terror has been going on since 1968

2/28/2008:  Turkey is becoming an obnoxious problem.

1/22/2008:  Iraq and Iran – another example of weakness leading to more violence.

1/10/2008:  Hating the War in Iraq

12/29/2007:  Bhutto's death could be a positive.

12/20/2007:  Dumb and dangerous intelligence on Iran

12/9/2007:  Palestinians a.ka. Arabs, praise Hitler [yet again]

11/24/2007:  The Bush Doctrine works

10/18/2007:  Turkey is not our friend, nor ally.

9/27/2007:  'The Crisis of Islam', Bernard Lewis. A Review.

9/14/2007:  Iraq will be a future South Korea

9/12/2007:  We are slowly winning in Iraq? Surely not, we need to lose wars not win them!

9/11/2007:  9-11: Just another day! Don’t offend the multi-cult club by ascribing significance to it!

8/30/2007:  Military Power Comes First

8/29/2007:  Free Islam with Economics

8/28/2007:  Iraq - what is the alternative but to stay?

6/12/2007:  The Long War: this is not a struggle against ‘terror’ but a war for and with, Islam.

6/7/2007:  Still believe that the war is unnecessary?

5/13/2007:  Iraq and Afghanistan in the longue duree of history

4/30/2007:  US Domestic political posturing over Iraq

4/20/2007:  Iraq is truly an evil place, but we cannot abandon the Middle East

4/5/2007:  Sorry but Iraq is not a mess.

4/1/2007:  Jews are the victims, not the Arabs

2/21/2007:  Running away from Iraq is easy. Dealing with the consequences is not.

2/6/2007:  The poverty of Arab culture informs Islam

1/14/2007:  War and mindless happy talk

1/9/2007:  In Iraq Bush has the urge to surge – 3 years too late

1/8/2007:  Hussein's death reflects the Arab and Islamic world

1/2/2007:  Muslims outraged by Hussein’s death! But not by the 1-2 million he murdered!

12/31/2006:  Killing Hussein is another important step in Iraq

12/19/2006:  The Iraq Survey Group Nonsense

12/15/2006:  Why we need to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan

11/29/2006:  Fighting to lose: how not to fight fascism

11/15/2006:  Conservative cowards renounce Iraq and the war for our future

11/12/2006:  How to win in Iraq

10/23/2006:  Iraq is not Vietnam, nor is it a quagmire

10/14/2006:  600.000 dead civilians in Iraq ? You don’t say. Why not 6 million ?

10/12/2006:  A sober and positive look at Iraq

10/11/2006:  In defense of the Iraqi war

9/27/2006:  Pre-war Iran now imitates pre-war Iraq

8/14/2006:  Socialists and Internationalists ensure a defeat in Lebanon

8/13/2006:  Anti-reality Socialism saps our strength to wage war

8/5/2006:  The root causes of Islamic terror are the ideology and oil profits

7/29/2006:  Pre-emption is valid when fighting Fascism

7/21/2006:  WMD and Iraq ? The answer lies in Syria

7/15/2006:  Invade Lebanon and Palestine

7/14/2006:  Let the War for the Middle East expand

6/22/2006:  Bring on Neo-Imperialism: More Federal Tax money should be given to our military and our security

6/3/2006:  Iran today and the Barbary coast of the 19th century

5/23/2006:  Iran: the fascist menace which must be destroyed through war

5/6/2006:  We need to stay in Iraq, and Afghanistan for a very long time

4/21/2006:  Armchair critics and geniuses march against the Iraq war!

4/17/2006:  A brief history of Iraqi violence – the death rate today is lower than at anytime since 1932

4/15/2006:  Iraq and Bush League analysis: the media keeps up its incessant war against the Iraqi operation

3/24/2006:  Doing nothing in the Middle East was more costly than intervention

3/22/2006:  Iraq at year 3: To flee or not to flee ?

3/16/2006:  The Iraq war – what the blogs, Iraqi’s and real media tell us

3/7/2006:  The 'Iraq Model' as the basis of Arab and Islamic change

3/3/2006:  The sickening double standard of hate speech; prosecute anyone excepting Muslims

3/1/2006:  WMD did exist in Iraq and are now in Syria and beyond

2/27/2006:  Invade Iran and Syria, quell Iraq and annex parts of the Middle East

1/31/2006:  Oh what a surprise –the Palestinians actually DO support terrorism

1/21/2006:  Iraq and Iran: time to use our leverage to take out Iran and impose Western imperialism

1/11/2006:  Why killing Hussein would have been smarter

12/21/2005:  Iraq will be free - Eastern Europe speaks out why it supports the US

12/19/2005:  Islam's war on the West has been in motion since 622 AD

11/30/2005:  Liberals are right, we should leave Iraq, lose the war on terror and leave the world to the UNO

11/15/2005:  Remembrance Day: Do we really remember ?

11/3/2005:  Jihad hits Europe: Will the French give Land for Peace?

10/27/2005:  Iraq has a Constitution – so the war is obviously a failure

10/23/2005:  The Poverty of Arab culture and economy

10/9/2005:  The ugliness of Arab culture can be seen in Gaza, Palestine and Iraq

9/4/2005:  Success in Iraq, fighting a war, and charging people with treason

8/19/2005:  Once Iraq settles down, invade Iran

8/2/2005:  We need a Western Constitution in Iraq – not Islamic law

7/25/2005:  Nuclear Terrorism – the reality is frightening

7/19/2005:  The War on Terror is bloody and appeasement is not acceptable

6/27/2005:  Don’t Stop Now ! – Teheran and Damascus next stops

6/13/2005:  Iraq is the perfect place to wage the War on Terror

6/1/2005:  End is nigh for the Terrorists

3/25/2005:  An Expert Voice on Iraq

3/25/2005:  France Funds Terror

2/25/2005:  Why Iraq will be pacified

2/25/2005:  Iraq and Al-Qaeda links

2/25/2005:  Iraq, WMD and Colin Powel

2/25/2005:  Quagmire