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Moslems worship a moon idol and a black rock.....

How spiritual !

by Ferdinand III

It is good amusement listening to Moslems try and avoid the obvious truism that Allah or 'Lord' is the same as Hub'Al the moon deity of Mecca. As with the rhetoric of any dialectical fascism, once the lies, distortions, contortions and rhetoric is stripped away little of a rational narrative remains, in denying what extant literature, the Koran itself and archaeology reveals to be true – Hub'Al is Allah.

Congratulations Moslems, you pray to a moon idol, represented by a black asteroid rock which you must kiss at least once in your lifetime. How reasonable. How spiritual.

Hub'Al as Allah makes perfect sense when one studies pre-Muhammadan history and what the pagan Arabs actually worshipped. When Muhammad destroyed the pagan Arab resistance and annihilated Jews and Christians through war and murder; he never destroyed the Hub'Al idol at the Kabaa. But he did eradicate every other idol including the 3 daughters [or 2 daughters and wife] of Hub'Al/Allah. Muhammad also maintained that he "received commandments to worship the 'Lord of the House' i.e. the Kaaba" (Muhammad, Tor Andrea, p.31). So its seems rather clear that he was talking about the pre-Islamic deity Hubal or Allah of Mecca.

To wit:

"...there were among the Arabs, long before the emergence of Islam worshippers of a supreme god known as Allah, and the Koran (13:17; 29:61; 31:24 leaves little doubt that Meccans...recognized the Allah was creator and provider." (p.570 Collier'sEncyclopedia under "Allah").

"At Mekka, Allah was the chief of the gods and the special deity of the Quraish, the prophet's tribe. Allah had three daughters: " (Van Ess, John, Meet the Arab, New York, 1943, p. 29)

"But history establishes beyond the shadow of a doubt that even the pagan Arabs before Muhammad time, knew the chief god by the name of Allah...ilah is used for any god and Al-ilah (contracted to Allah, i.e, the god)...of three hundred and sixty idols...As final evidence, we have the fact that centuries before Muhammad the Arabian Kaaba, the temple at Mecca, was called Beit Allah, the House of God..." (Zwemer, Muhammad is Mecca, pp.25-26, 31-36).

"There were hundreds of such deities in Pagan Arabia, of all those mentioned, four appear to be most popularly revered on the eve of Islam: al-Uzza, Allat, and Manat. All three female deities, popularly worshipped by the tribes of Hijaz, they were regarded as the daughters of Allah, the god who headed the Arabian pantheon when Muhammad began to preach Allah was the paramount deity" (Islam, And Ceasare Farah).

"The origin of this [Allah] goes back to Pre-Islamic times as Prof. Nokleke has shown...Muhammad found the Meccans believing in a supreme god whom they called Allah...with Allah however they associated minor deities [called] the daughters of Allah. Mohammed's reform was to assert the solitary existence of Allah.” (Hastings, Encyclopedia of Religion of Ethics under "Allah" p.326).

"Historians like Vaqqidi have said Allah was actually the chief of the 360 gods being worshipped in Arabia at the time Mohammed rose to prominenceIbn Al-Kalbi gave 27 names of pre-Islamic deities...Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Mohammed came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this" (G. J. O. Moshay, Who Is This Allah?, Dorchester House, Bucks, UK, 1994, pg. 134)

Allah was and still is of course Hub'Al:

"In Mecca, a god Hubal was worshipped, who may be identical with Allah" (H. Ringgren and A.V Strom, Religions of Mankind, p.178).

"The pre-Mohammedan Arabic god Hubal had as his title Allahu meaning 'the god' the patron of the Kaaba at Mecca, already supreme he was maintained in Mohammedan theology as the one god..." (The Funk and Wignall's Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology and Legend says under "Allah,"vol.1, p.36).

"Among the gods worshipped by the Quraysh, the greatest was Hubal...The Quraysh had several idols in and around the Kaaba. the greatest of these was Hubal" (F.E. Peters, The Hajj, pp.24-25).

"Hubal was the principal deity [in Mecca] the god of the moon..." (Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, p.179).

"...of the 360 idols set up in the Kaaba, the most important was Hubal, the god of the was set up in the Kaaba, and became the principal idol of the Meccans..." (ibid., p.161).

"Hubal was the chief God of the Kaaba" (George W. Braswell, Islam, p.44).

"...the main god of the shrine [was] Hubal" (Neighboring Faiths, Winfried, Corduan, p.78).

Any reasonable person, not blinded by Moslem propaganda or self-loathing Marxist revisionist non-history can see the connection between the main 'god' of the 360 idol shrine or Kabaa, and Muahammad's Koranic 'Allah'.

The following seems objectively rather clear:

  1. Hubal was the greatest god of the Kaaba [or Kabaa] and pre-dates the rise of Islam by some 600 years.

  2. Hubal was the chief god of Mecca or the 'Lord' named 'Allah'.

  3. He or it, was the Supreme god of the Quraysh tribe and maintained by Muhammed's family.

Denying the pagan antecedents of Islam does not make factual history less important or poignant, but it does reveal quite a lot about the holder of such contra-reality beliefs.  

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